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Most folks around DA seem to use CG to create all their art, but a lot of us still plug away with pens, pencils, and markers.  I interviewed a few of my friends who do traditional art to see how they create their pieces, and see how they feel about their materials.
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From :iconwyndstar:wyndstar
Weapons of choice: 2h pencils, magic rub erasers, Koh-i-Noor Rapidograph 0.25 & 0.35, black ballpoint pens, Sakura Micron, Faber-Fastell Pitt pens; Strathmore bristol smooth 9"x12", regular computer paper, DELETER manuscript paper; DELETER brand and IC Screen screentones; several brands of markers and blenders including Prismacolor, Tombow, Copic and Neopiko

Pros and Cons:
-2H pencil: I draw with a lot of pressure and if I use B, I’ll smudge all about!
-magic rub erasers: they're soft enough so that when you're erasing a big giant page, your arm doesn't get tired. Only downside is the eraser dust.
-Koh-I-Noor Rapidograph: I love this pen because I always want a fine line and the ink is really dark. The bad thing about it is, it bleeds on some paper and sometimes the tip gets clogged so you have to wipe the tip a lot.
-ballpoint pens: I just like them because they're smooth. :P and they create a certain atmosphere. The bad -- you have to get used to inking with them. :(
-Faber Castell Pitt pens: SUPER DARK PENS!! They are LOVE! :D the bad -- they need more sizes :(
-Strathmore bristol smooth: I can't even tell you how much I love this paper. The bad-- expensive :(
-computer paper: if you've got no money... :P you don't need the expensive paper. The bad—can’t use markers; certain pens on it or it'll bleed. :(
-DELETER manuscript paper: Super smooth! They’re great for inking and markering. The bad-- expensive and hard to find.
-ALL SCREENTONES: Awesome shading effects. :D  The bad -- hard to find, expensive, and takes awhile to learn to use them (IC Screen's glue is more sticky than DELETER)
-COPIC & Neopiko markers: LOOOVE them!  COPICs are refillable/Neopiko in MY opinion, looks more watercolor-like.  I LOVE the brush tips because you can blend them easily and create watercolor effects. The bad -- expensive, sometimes hard to find. And the smell :(
-Prismacolor markers: cheaper than above markers. The bad -- UGH! the SMELL!!!!! I have to open a window when I use these!  Has no brushtip :(

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:iconedge-chan:Edge-chan

For sketching I use Rotring tikky II 0.5 with Staedtler's blue graphite. The good of it is that I can erase the blue lines in Photoshop and it makes a clear drawing. The bad is that the blue graphites are expensive (2 dollars per box of 12 blue graphite), and also, somewhat fragile, so you have to control the pressure or you can brake them while drawing.

For inking I use Staedtler pigment liner. They cost [in Chile] between 2-3 dollars per pen and they come in sizes between 0.05 - 0.8. I like that I can do a fast inking and it’s resistant to water, so they're perfect for inking in watercolor works. But the bad part is that they're very fragile (especially the ones between 0.05-0.5) so heavy pressure can brake it. And also, when they run out, you have to buy one new.

And also, I use Winsor & Newton drawing ink, in "black indian" and "white" colors with a nib pen. I like that it does a good ink job, but you need a lot of patience and watch the amount of the ink you use on the nib pen, because if you use a lot of ink on the nib, it can stain on your work. Each ink bottle cost between 2-3 dollars [in Chile] and they really worth it.

And for paper I use any sketchbook, usually with bond paper that is good to work with ink and graphite, but you need a lot of work with watercolor. Each sketchbook cost 3 dollars, and it depends of the brand, the bond paper can be good or bad to work with. That's why I use a lot of the art store brands.



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:icondeactivatimusprime:DeactivatimusPrime
Pencils - Very hard leads at very random times for very random sketches and pencil works, but never anything that I color, usually. 6H - 4H. I think my lead-holder is 8H (if that's possible). For things I intend to color, I use a plain old mechanical pencil because I very rarely have a sharpener handy.

Pens - For black inking, I've used Microns, Staetler Liners, and more recently, Rapidographs. Of the three, I think the Staetler liners are the best. Rapidographs are awesome, but if you're not drawing with them 24 hours a day, they get all clogged up. Microns always die too quickly and smear when I try to color things before the ink dries. :E Staetlers dry pretty much the instant they hit the paper, so they rock. Sometimes I'll do a pen sketch or two in two different colored gel pens like I did when I was 16. :D I love collecting pens. Back in the day, I was that chick with 80 pens in her backpack. I am also very very fond of Deleter Tachikawa pens (they have old dip-pen nibs), but seeing as I've been to no cons in the past 5 years that HAVE them anymore, I haven't been able to work with them in a while. I also love me some good old ball point pens. :B

Markers - I still use Crayolas from time to time when I have the help of my handy-dandy <a href=www.dickblick.com/zz051/33/>water brush. Generally, I go with Prismacolors when I don't have Triacolors or Copics. I've dabbled a tad with Chartpack Ad markers, but they are atomic BOMBS when it comes to fumes, and all-nigh uncontrollable unless you want a wash of some sort in the background. Another one I'm all about is the black licorice marker in the <a href=www.dickblick.com/zz212/15/>Mr. Sketch scented markers pack. It dissolves into CMYK. I shit you not. That's how I did this and this with just one marker.

Colored Pencils - Prismacolors, just like everyone else. How boooring.

Paper - Bristol for marker stuff, copy paper and LINED PAPER for a lot of other things, but I also like to work with different colored paper, too. :V

WIP - High Priestess by DeactivatimusPrimePink Hair by DeactivatimusPrimeGrayling Girls by DeactivatimusPrimeKova by DeactivatimusPrime

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:iconhokuto:hokuto

I usually sketch with a plain mechanical pencil (Quicker-Clickers FTW) with .5 lead, and do all my erasing with kneaded erasers - I have one that's new-ish and nice, and then a horror of an old kneaded eraser that's practically black from use, which is occasionally useful because it'll hold a thin shape for doing fine/tiny line adjustments better than the softer one, and also if I smush it down hard on the paper and leave it for a minute it'll leave an awesome grungy kind of texture. Paper is just a Strathmore sketchbook - not great paper and tends to be a bit textures, no good for watercolors but okay for inking and marker work. I also got a pad of Strathmore watercolor paper to play, it's worked out well for the one thing I've used it for but - uh - don't use markers on it. :XD:

Inkswise, I have a set of Sakura microns. I usually use .005 and .01 for basic thin lines, then use the .03 or .08 for thickening parts out. I also have a Staedtler brush pen and find it godly for doing black hair or just playing around for ink-sketches. Sometimes I ink with Bic pens too, they're also great for shading hair and work well for things I don't plan to put wet media on. They're also good for ink-sketching, which I'd rather not waste micron ink on.

For coloring I've used colored pencils (I have a set of Prismacolors with hard leads, and a few random colors I picked up in soft lead), watercolor pencils + water (also Prismacolor), and - uh - Prismacolor markers. I - I'm not a brand whore, that's just how it worked out. D: The soft-leaded pencils are great for smooth shading and blending, but even the hard-leaded ones will work for that, it's just a little more difficult to get a smooth gradient. Watercolor pencils are fun, but really require watercolor paper to use and the colors tend to end up lighter than one imagines after adding the water, so it's good to put it on a good bit thicker and darker than you want the final product. (As a side note, this set of watercolor pencils is pretty good for doll face-ups too, since as far as I know they're not oil-based. They don't make for very smooth blushing, but are great for eyebrows, lashes, and lip-lines.) The markers tend to bleed, but I've had pretty good results with them - but then, I don't use them for much that's very ambitious. n.n;;

Field Trip by hokutoCapti by hokutoLoose:Control by hokutoGhost Metal - Relly by hokuto

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And why not? :P :iconazarath:azarath

Materials: I tend to use Strathmore smooth bristol for just about everything, especially if I'm going to ink and marker a piece.  I use Staedtler fine liners or Sakura Micron brand pens - anything waterproof.  I use 2H pencils of any brand, since they're light enough to erase before inking. As for markers I use Copic and Prismacolor.

Pros and cons:  Bristol board is really smooth!  The marker lays down perfectly on it.  But, it gets costly, since I use 11x14 and it costs about $10 USA per pack.  I don't recommend vellum bristol board; the texture is killer on your marker tips.  Cardstock and inkjet computer paper also works well, and lead to really rich colors. But you have to learn how to control your markers to make sure you don't get any bleed.  Staedtler pens are a bit more expensive than Sakura brand, and seem to hold up a little longer.  But, the points are made of plastic and are fragile.  For someone like me who presses too hard, snapping points are common.  :(

Prismacolors are popular and cheaper ($2.50-$3.50 USD per marker).  They are very rich and dark a lot of the time.  Sometimes I get mislead by the color on the marker's case.  They have a great broad point and they FINALLY started manufacturing new fine points.  Previously they had plastic points like on Microns, but now they make them with tiny brush tips.

Copics are hard to find, and expensive, but are worth every penny.  They come in several varieties and the colors are very vibrant.  I use Sketch, which has a wedge tip, and a wonderful brush tip, great for sweeping, watecolor-like brush marks.  The nibs are replaceable and the ink is refilable.  One marker will cost you about $6 alone, but a refill (which will fill one marker many many times) is about $7 each.  The only thing I don't like is out of the 250+ Copics I have, very few make good flesh tones, and I have to rely on my Prismacolors for that.

Lan's ultra-keen marker tips by azaraththefuzzysocks commission by azarathRandy for luxy by azaraththe good doctor by azarath

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Some traditional anime works from my favorites gallery
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:thumb79694329:See only, our beautiful world by Kyoko-Taide:thumb77539905:
You've Got So Far To Go by tenaku+FeeL LiKE daNCe+ by VergilSharkyHimiko, the puppeteer by panzergrenadier

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Traditional Media tutorials
Tutorial: Detailed Hair part 1 by Cataclysm-X:thumb64621916:TUTORIAL :: COPIC by Ecthelian
The Penciling Tutorial by sashasBasic Pencil Shading by Snigom
Traditional Artwork Tutorial by MiyaToriaka: Faynt's Color Pencil Tut : by F-AYN-T

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Want to buy some traditional materials?
Dick Blick www.dickblick.com
Utrecht www.utrecht.com
Pearl Art www.pearlpaint.com/
Discount Art Supplies www.discountart.com/
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Do you use traditional media? I want to hear from you!  Leave a comment below about what you use, what you like/dislike about the materials, and some links to your traditional works.

Future installments coming soon!: traditional screentoning and watercolors!
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chicharia Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i use traditional media! :D specifically, latex paints[link] poster paints [link] , ballpens [link] and oil pastels[link]
follow the link for the artworks ! :D

(im kinda resourceful) :peace:
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further comments, i think you may use the notes system. thanks. :D
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smileful Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2008
wow..:jawdrop:
:w00t:
many thankies for posting this..:D
this really helped me a lot..i got some ideas..
and opinions..
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some of the tools that you mentioned...are really helpful.i'm using it now on my deviations.x'D

arigatou!!:thanks:
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OddFoxxeP Featured By Owner May 28, 2008
Wow, thank you very much for posting this, it's always nice to hear a fresh opinion about art tools from someone else.
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crazydreamerdreamson Featured By Owner May 2, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Whoot for tradional media!!!! I always use my faithful coloured pencils, I think they're the watecolour caran d'arche ones and they're great as they're hard pencils so you can sharpen them to a really fine point. My friend got me a small set of prismacolours but I'm so scared about using them as they break so easily but they are awesome pencils too. I can't really afford other ones so I've stuck to those, I also have my faithful black pen and biro. =) I'm not that fussed about paper, different textures create different affects. I really want to start using markers tho as they make the piece look professional and the colours can be a lot more vibrant too. I think I'll check out some of those tutorials!
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prettystarshine Featured By Owner May 2, 2008
I still am using traditional materials... damn my inability to have a pc... >.<

I use the cheapest of materials available to the Philippines...
pencilling: mongol no. 1, 2 and 3, an HB pencil i don't know where i got (maybe a prize from a birthday party) and a soft eraser that i got as a prize in a bday party again...
Inking: I use a mygel 0.5 gel pen, pilot 0.7 ball point pen, 0.5 avanti gel pen...
coloring: i use twist pens, the fake ones which cost PHP 20 per set...

I like those because they came in cheap (or maybe free) and i hate those because they... uhm... i dunno...

here's my traditional works..:
[link] [link] [link] [link] [link] [link]
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Hisietari Featured By Owner May 1, 2008
Oh so cool! Though I'd like to try CG one day, I still cling to traditional art. ^^" Usually I use a cheap but none the less very comfortable, light mechanical pencil and staedtler 2B mines, also 2 Milan erasers (for technique drawing and charcoal/pencils). Outlines usually with copic multiliner black or sepia (0.05/0.3/1.0mm), colours either Copic Ciao markers or watercolours, also coloured pencils: Faber Castell Classic, Koh-i-Noor Progresso, Pentel mechanical glitter pens. *lol* Ah, white gel pen from Pentel. Mm, that's basically it... sometimes acrylics, too, but I suck with the brush even more than with a pen.
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The-Yuri-Canon Featured By Owner May 1, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is funny, I used to be all for traditional means of colouring my work, was trained as an acrylic and watercolour painter, but switched to computers after the cost of screen tones and paints nearly killed me.

It is nice to see people using Sakura Pigmas for inking, seeing as they are my favs as well. I still use blue pencils, like edge-chan but a less expensive type (Pilot), 2b-4b pencils and Sakura pigma pens for inking. Afterwards I tend to redo the entire thing again the the computer because I found that if I didn't the print quality would diminish, This is when printing large posters that is. I sometimes wish to return to my old traditional ways, but the cost is way to much... *sighs*

Well a Salute to all you who continue with the traditional style and don't get drawn into the glamour of the computer world.

Kat
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RenKram013 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008  Professional General Artist
Oh wow. This DAOS is really awesome!^^ We get to express ourselves!:D

And thank you so much for the feature. It really makes me want to do better! Thanks!!!:D
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DeactivatimusPrime Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
AWESOME~! Thanks, Lan! :> I forgot to gush about kneaded erasers. T_T Gawsh.
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hokuto Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
*blushes with joy at being - er - useful or something ANYWAY YAY*
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